Comments on: Sexism? http://bittersweetdistractor.com/2008/06/sexism/ db: bitter, sweet; easily distracted Tue, 28 Feb 2012 03:12:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Ann http://bittersweetdistractor.com/2008/06/sexism/comment-page-1/#comment-390 Ann Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:29:41 +0000 http://bittersweetdistractor.com/?p=84#comment-390 Absolutely, but I would have to draw a distinction between say, calling her a cow, and the constant implication that she is a ball breaking fishwife- many of the comments frankly implied that listening to a woman president exhorting the nation would be intolerable, because nobody wants to be nagged by a woman. And the significance of Chris' comments is that it grated on men's nerves. He was referring specifically to a "barn-burning" style speech, and implied that men just weren't going to take that from a woman. Again, I don't support Hillary, for many reasons. But she, and other women in power or who are ambitious, are being raked over the coals in the media over issues that have nothing to do with their platform, and I think that is reprehensible. : ) Absolutely, but I would have to draw a distinction between say, calling her a cow, and the constant implication that she is a ball breaking fishwife- many of the comments frankly implied that listening to a woman president exhorting the nation would be intolerable, because nobody wants to be nagged by a woman.

And the significance of Chris’ comments is that it grated on men’s nerves. He was referring specifically to a “barn-burning” style speech, and implied that men just weren’t going to take that from a woman.

Again, I don’t support Hillary, for many reasons. But she, and other women in power or who are ambitious, are being raked over the coals in the media over issues that have nothing to do with their platform, and I think that is reprehensible. : )

]]> By: db http://bittersweetdistractor.com/2008/06/sexism/comment-page-1/#comment-385 db Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:54:28 +0000 http://bittersweetdistractor.com/?p=84#comment-385 Well, Chris was wrong on many levels--her speeches grated on my nerves, too :p (of course he says offensive things about people of both genders, AFAIK) But as I said, I didn't see a lot of the examples you cite. And I think the press ought to know better than to say things like that, really. Regardless of what they think privately, they shouldn't be saying it publicly. I guess if you disdain a woman, though, it's hard not to decry her using female-specific terms. I know I ended up disdaining her *shrug* and because she's female, I end up mentally calling her a "cow"...would it be better to call her a jerk instead? isn't a jerk inherently male? why isn't it sexist to call a guy a jerk, then? You know what I mean? Well, Chris was wrong on many levels–her speeches grated on my nerves, too :p (of course he says offensive things about people of both genders, AFAIK)

But as I said, I didn’t see a lot of the examples you cite. And I think the press ought to know better than to say things like that, really. Regardless of what they think privately, they shouldn’t be saying it publicly. I guess if you disdain a woman, though, it’s hard not to decry her using female-specific terms. I know I ended up disdaining her *shrug* and because she’s female, I end up mentally calling her a “cow”…would it be better to call her a jerk instead? isn’t a jerk inherently male? why isn’t it sexist to call a guy a jerk, then?

You know what I mean?

]]> By: Ann http://bittersweetdistractor.com/2008/06/sexism/comment-page-1/#comment-384 Ann Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:32:17 +0000 http://bittersweetdistractor.com/?p=84#comment-384 Deb, I am no supporter of Hillary, and I think she made many serious errors in her campaign, but I agree fully that she has been subjected to sexism in the media and in the public sphere, to wit: -the "cleavage controversy" -the comparison by Chris Matthews to an attention starved stripper -his calling her uppity, and his saying that her speeches grated on men's nerves -commentators stating that she was like "the first wife" the "nagging wife" etc -selling potatoes branded "Hillary's Balls" -Hillary nutcrackers with the cracker between her legs sold at airports -being referred to as "fishwifey" by Cheri Jacobi on national television http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-IrhRSwF9U -men yelling "Iron my shirt" at her New Hampshire campaign speech Watch this youtube link for a few more examples. Deb,
I am no supporter of Hillary, and I think she made many serious errors in her campaign, but I agree fully that she has been subjected to sexism in the media and in the public sphere, to wit:
-the “cleavage controversy”
-the comparison by Chris Matthews to an attention starved stripper
-his calling her uppity, and his saying that her speeches grated on men’s nerves
-commentators stating that she was like “the first wife” the “nagging wife” etc
-selling potatoes branded “Hillary’s Balls”
-Hillary nutcrackers with the cracker between her legs sold at airports
-being referred to as “fishwifey” by Cheri Jacobi on national television

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-IrhRSwF9U
-men yelling “Iron my shirt” at her New Hampshire campaign speech
Watch this youtube link for a few more examples.

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